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Screeching handbrake

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17:31
December 17, 2016


AndrewS

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And another electrical issue, this time intermittent. After putting on the handbrake manually, or after stopping the engine, there is screeching from the region of a back wheel, and the kind lady tells me there is a handbrake fault. However the car still holds on the brake on a hill. Is this fixable (lubrication? Releasing something?) or is it likely to get more frequent and need replacement of the whole handbrake unit? Or might it go away?

Andrew

16:31
December 31, 2016


AndrewS

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Latest news, it did not go away :-(

I started the car and the handbrake would not release, so it is stuck on the drive. The handbook mentions a manual release lever under a flap in the bottom of the oddments box between the front seats. The trouble is that mine does not have a flap, and the lining seems well stuck down. Any ideas/suggestions? Does yours have such a lever in its oddments box?

Andrew

18:52
December 31, 2016


bmn

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AndrewS said:

Latest news, it did not go away :-(

I started the car and the handbrake would not release, so it is stuck on the drive. The handbook mentions a manual release lever under a flap in the bottom of the oddments box between the front seats. The trouble is that mine does not have a flap, and the lining seems well stuck down. Any ideas/suggestions? Does yours have such a lever in its oddments box?

Andrew

Hi Andrew,

                 it's not a flap as such.it is the whole rectangular base. It is not clipped in,it is just a tight fit. The tab for pulling  it must have been trapped beneath the base. Use a thin knife inserted into the rear edge and prise it out. It will come it can be tightly wedged in.

Have a happy new year,

Brian

13:26
January 2, 2017


AndrewS

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Hi Brian, thanks for the guidance. I managed to lift the bottom liner eventually…. Pulled the handle but no joy. It suggests the handbrake mechanism is jammed, or even kaput. I just hope my friendly garageman is willing to come to the house to look at it. Andrew

14:43
January 2, 2017


alanclarke

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AndrewS said:

Hi Brian, thanks for the guidance. I managed to lift the bottom liner eventually…. Pulled the handle but no joy. It suggests the handbrake mechanism is jammed, or even kaput. I just hope my friendly garageman is willing to come to the house to look at it. Andrew

Hi Andrew

I found it wasn't enough to just pull the handle. I had to yank really really really hard for the brakes to release.

Alan

17:12
January 21, 2017


AndrewS

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We could not get it to release by pulling hard on the manual release handle.

The garageman came to my house and cut the cable from motor (over the rear axle) to one wheel; the motor then released. I think he may have cut the other cable as well. I then drove it to his garage and unbelievably both front springs were broken!! How can they break when the car was static on the drive? I feel well and truly jinxed. 

He checked to see how to swop the handbrake motor unit and reported it would be a massive job entailing dropping the rear suspension; with the added unknown about whether the suspension fixing bolts would come out.

We needed a car and have bought a 2009 Prius: moving from max unreliability to max reliability. So now pondering what to do. Any suggestions?

I could replace the front springs so the car is drivable till MoT runs out 5 April.

However I am ready to let someone have it in the hope that they can keep it going, as it has had a lot of things fixed.

09:43
January 22, 2017


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Hi Andrew, Sorry to hear of your troubles, I have had exactly the same issue regarding front springs!!!

 

I came out at 4 in the morning and the car was squealing as i pulled off the drive, thought it was just really cold or slow to release brakes…

Got halfway down the road and smelt burning, I stopped and turned my torch on to find the spring had snapped at the bottom and was rubbing on the tyre, melting the inside! Luckily it was the smooth edge of the spring rather than the snapped end as a blow out would have occurred.

I had an Aygo for a week whilst the parts were ordered.

 

Sadly my UK website source was infact German and had to wait a week for the following parts to arrive:
A pair of Bilstein B4 shocks
KYB Springs
KYB Top Mount Kits
KYB rubber shock shields

Garage quoted £595 for the parts and replacement, I decided to buy the above for £300 and do it myself.

I don't believe in cutting corners when working on the corners, so I got the shocks even though the springs were the issue.

 

As it turned out my pop pop popping sound whilst steering was the top mounts which has disintegrated and were a collection of metal shards and a mush of rubber.

To my surprise (well, no longer a surprise having seen that the windscreen damage was a cover-up job) the front shocks were different! It appears that one side had failed in the past and rather than be sensible and replace both sides only one was replaced. The side that failed on me was I believe to be the original, so that spring was 154,000 miles and 13 years old!

The job took me 6 hours with the use of painfully slow spring compressors but the improvement is noticeable!

I hope that may inspire you…

08:50
February 9, 2017


alanclarke

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Post edited 08:52 – February 9, 2017 by alanclarke


Very sorry to hear of Andrew's latest troubles and congratulate him on all he has done

to keep his Vel on the road.

Also very sorry to hear that Oliver and his Father are moving on and thank them both

for this forum which I found to be a great resource of support.

 

AS part of my contingency planning for the "what if" case I have come across this company in Wales that

repairs Renault electric handbrakes. Haven't yet needed but could be useful.

http://www.parkingbrakerepairs.com

 

 

Parking brakes for Renault; Scenic, Grande Scenic, Laguna & Espace

(where we fit the part to your parking brake box (inc. parts cost))

 

Parking brake motor replacement

£150

Parking Brake motor replacement & relay replacement

£180

Parking brake motor replacement, relay replacement & cable replacement

£250

Fitting

£50

 

 

 

Parts

 

Renault scenic-cables

£45

Renault Grande Scenic cables

£80

Renault Laguna Cables

£80

Motor & Gearbox  (£30 deposit refunded when you send us the old gearbox)

£60 + £30

Large Relay

£10

Small Relay

£10

09:23
February 9, 2017


AndrewS

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Alan, what a find!  My garageman thought the suspension would have to be dropped, and that the bolts might prove difficult to remove i.e. a major trip into the unknown, so he is reluctant to embark on it. I will phone them to ask if they can handle a Vel. Chances are they will say come down and we will have a look. If they could do it, at least the Vel would pass the MoT and be more saleable.

Coincidentally I watched Car SOS last night about the written-off Skyline GTR being restored; I was surprised when my wife wanted to watch it as well. She saw the widow's need to restore the car and at the end said "we could find £2,000 to do the Vel". This after pushing to get rid of it! Trouble is bless her, she is always ready to spend savings on worthwhile causes, and savings are not unlimited…….

So next, a phone call.

A

15:53
February 9, 2017


AndrewS

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Been in touch with Parking Brake Repairs. Always good to talk to someone who knows what they are talking about. He has asked me to measure the length of the handbrake cables from motor unit to caliper. So now to go under the car. Altertively does anyone by chance have some cables to sell me, or know their length?

Andrew

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