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Fuel Injection System Fault (3.0DCi)

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04:42
April 1, 2014


S3m8a

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lexi: thank you

 

800dr – this one which i have mentioned is necessary to use without diesel – the engine works only with "my" product – that is the reason why you have to put input and output of your diesel pump into the bottle with this item – no diesel form tank, no aditives, you have to use just this cleaner.

 

No problem – last tim when i stuck in France (2012) – i saw that noone there want to speak english – its a long story about my 2,2dci problems (stuck in Orange), few months before my troubles – i was speaking with Papyts and he helped me to find and contact few hotels for my "Eurotrip" (IT- Venice, Modena, Pisa, FR- Nice, Cannes, St. Tropez, Marseille, Arles, Avignon, then we wanted to go to Lyon and Parsi but my VS disagreed)

nevertheless guys in renault garage were terrible (they wanted to change all the engine for 7600€ – my mechanician repaired in CZE for 80€, then i had to pay 80€ for reseating of timing belt) – they said that they cant speak english, so i tried to find someone in "dealership" – i have found – it was the owner of all that Renault areal – he spokes fluently english and when he came with me to the garage (behind the dealership), both of those guys in garage started to speak fluently english when they saw that he goes with me :D  - i know that it is not the same for everyone – but had to tell you this part of my story ;) 

Anyway – in case that there will be some meeting and i will be able to come, i will be really glad if there will be someone who could i speak with :) – i will bring some CZ beer and in case that you will want, i can bring some spare parts (costs in czech are rally funny comparing with FR and UK costs – i spoke with Hammond and he told me somtehing about 120Ł for one hour of work in Renault UK – in CZ – its about 10-15Ł ;) the same situation is usually with spare parts)

 

Lexi: 

3,0dV6 is generally quite good engine only in facelift models (not so clear – some of those facelifted models has the old engine) – you can recognize them – P9X 701 130kW is the old one – lots of problems with overhetaing and curves on blocks and holes in heads, etc.

P9X 715 133kw (used from III.q./2005 i think) is much better (not a lot of overheated engines like PhI.). BUT both of these two engines is necessary to service with your head not with your instructions in service manuals (the same rules are for 2,2dci):

1)oil change max each 15000km ( im doing it like this for more than 100 000kms with ELF 5W40)

2)be careful till the temperature of the engine is OK (water could be on 90°C but the oil is still cold – thats the reason)

3)i do not reccomend to use CHIP Tunning for these three engines

4)better to put down those plastic pieces inside of the engine – on the top – plastic covers of battery and of the head (that silver one with the label of the engine)

5)WHEN YOU WILL BUY IT – GO TO YOUR RENAULT DEALER AND ASK HIM TO INSTALL THE NEWEST SOFTWARE OF YOUR UNITS (regarding to my informations – the SW – mainly in phI – was bad – in case of overheating it shall start the vent in the engine on the second speed – but the units didn do it – the unit with old SW switched this vent off and the overheating was critical

6)both of 3,0DCI is necessary to fill with a good quality diesel – sometimes is better to use  premium diesel (in CZ for ex. Benzina Verva diesel (normal is TOP Q), Shell V-Power diesel (normal is Fuel Save Diesel), etc.)

anyway this 3,0dci is great engine when it works :D if you do not need V6 expression – you can think about 2,0dCi 127kw – really good alternative with the same power almost and less troubles :)

11:09
April 1, 2014


lexi

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That is some great information my friend.

What a story with the mechanics in France.  A bit of an adventure for sure.

  Congratulations with your English……..very good!  Cool

11:32
April 1, 2014


SAFRANEV6RXE

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Just visited a garage today who have a 3.0 in which cuts out when hot at a standstill then is tricky to restart,any ideas?

I said i will ask and try and find out.

13:20
April 1, 2014


800dr

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lexi said:

That is some great information my friend.

What a story with the mechanics in France.  A bit of an adventure for sure.

  Congratulations with your English……..very good!  Cool

I agree with Lexi

Sorry for your mechanics issues in France, all frenchies are not bad guys (I hope Embarassed)

And tour English is really better than mine: Bravo

13:22
April 1, 2014


800dr

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SAFRANEV6RXE said:

Just visited a garage today who have a 3.0 in which cuts out when hot at a standstill then is tricky to restart,any ideas?

I said i will ask and try and find out.

Perhaps one of both electrovalves on the diesel pomp. Did they check engine with Clip OBD?

13:27
April 1, 2014


800dr

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Post edited 13:28 – April 1, 2014 by 800dr


GAV Sorry, we pollute your original message. What about with your error message? What do you tried in order to fix it? And what results?

13:30
April 1, 2014


S3m8a

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Lexi:

thank you, i work in Europe and i have to speak Englis – but i spoke with only one guy from UK and it was terrible :D

it was really funny – i wasnt angry it was a lot of fun – picnic in orange in front of renault dealership waiting for taxi to the hotel… really funny 

I have my VS for more then 4,5 years

 

SafraneV6RXE:

agree with 800dr – try to see that engine with CLIP – or they shall try to do that. Im not sure if clip can shows this problem, but usually this kind of problem can be done by valves on diesel pump

 

800dr

deffinatly not! i havent any other problem with french people, just know that they dont want to speak english. Sometimes helped when i came into a store or somewhere and i said bonjour (not sure with the spelling) and that im from CZE and need to speak English :)

18:26
April 1, 2014


Gav

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No worries about the post being hi-jacked, it's all good reading!

The "Fuel injection system fault" has ceased. I used various products and then read some of the replies here and have done some more.

Step 1 was a full engine service (Oil flush used)

Step 2 was to add some Ametech Engine Restore to the oil. The claims made make it sound too good to be true but I think it has helped.

Step 3 was to use a reduced gasket on the EGR system

Step 4 was diesel fuel additive. Every tank full has had something different! (1st was the Ametech, 2nd, was Redex, 3rd was Millers and then I'll be using Countdown.

 

I've gone from billows of black acrid smoke to nothing (albeit usual diesel stuff)

I had a theory about the fault – that it could be a few things but S38ma said something that struck a chord and that was about the pump. The pump has to pressurise the fuel rail and under load might not have been doing so. Everything else had been checked. And so more additive has been used. If that hadn't worked then I'd have looked at S3m8a's idea of treating the pump itself.

 

Thanks for all the posts.

11:36
April 2, 2014


S3m8a

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Im not sure how successful is using of aditives in your situation – anyway in case, that it will not help, just try my advice – i know that it works with Liqui Moly, Im not sure with other products. 

 

Anyway – services usually want to change the pump – do not accept this solution – its just wasting of money – in the worst case you can change only valves (1/10 of cost)

 

Good luck

16:52
July 30, 2015


Gav

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Thread resurection!

 

There is another thread on here somewhere about the diesel pump soelnoid being the issue on these engines but with it being an engine out job then the cose on a 12 year old car becomes prohibitive.

However, I might have found a solution. As you might remember (doubtful) my engine gave lots of black clouds and "limp mode" if I floored it. In May this year I tried a can of "Diesel Purge" by Molyslip.

Still using Millers in every tank too.

I can now push as hard as I want without the "Fuel Injection System Fault" coming up.

Well worth the £13.50 for a litre of the stuff.

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