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4 Wheel Laser Alignment, Geometry, Tracking and Balancing

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23:02
August 12, 2011


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Read my blog post about my trip to Drury Lane Services, one of the north west's most highly regarded specialists in the art of full and thorough wheel alignment/geometry and balancing:

http://www.vel-satis.org/vel-s…..-alignment

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07:36
August 14, 2011


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Brilliant article Olly. And great photos. Thank you. Certainly something I will be looking at when my next tyre change is due….imminent I think!! Dave

14:43
April 18, 2012


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Post edited 16:23 – April 18, 2012 by Bruno Henriques


Team said:

Read my blog post about my trip to Drury Lane Services, one of the north west's most highly regarded specialists in the art of full and thorough wheel alignment/geometry and balancing:

http://www.vel-satis.org/vel-s…..-alignment

 

Hi there, 1st post here, being short of an introduction, I've got a previlege 2.2dci (with 240k Km) and a new engine :)
I've spotted this, and would like to advice all vel satis forum members to correct your alignment values. Let me explain,

I've went to a local garage that uses the same equipment than yours, and they 1st spotted that they couldn't perform the rear alignment up to the values specified… now renault (from which I bought the vel) replaced engine block, shocks, brakes, tires and lots of bits before I bought it, so it seemed strange that some suspension parts were so wrong that the technician couldn't get to the values!

and so I begin searching, and found the workshop (renault) manual for our car (although in Spanish), got the correct alignment values and went to renault, just to confirm them. What we found, all angle values are correct on the database, but the signals (+-) were wrong for total toe alignment both at front and rear of the car.

I'll leave here 4 images showing my first and second alignment and renault papers showing the correct values (I've translated some of it, as it is in Spanish).

I also made the shop communicate with the database providers so an update will be issued soon to all shops using it.

As for now you could print these sheets and go to your local shop to confirm them and hopefully align your beloved vel correctly!
 
You will see that in my second alignment, the rear left wheel is still not good, but I've spotted a problem with one of the rubbers (that once replaced will hopefully sort it out)…
 
Renault - front

 
Renault - rear

 
1st alignment - incorrect

(notice the positive values on both TOE angles)
 
2nd alignment - correct

 

check your own prints for toe angles (notice how they are positive?) they should read:

 

total front

-0º20'  to  0º0'

total rear

-0º30'  to  -0º10'

 

As far as I recall, there are no positive values (on toe that is) in any of renault cars…

15:03
May 2, 2012


Bruno Henriques

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no one care to comment on this?

16:37
May 2, 2012


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I had mine alignment done about 2 months ago in PL. I went to good garage, which was able to do front and back. After check back was ok, fornt need adjusting.

I have values somewhere in car or home (hopefuly). If I fiind them I will post the numbers to compare.

I was always nearly sure, that there is a problem, as back wheels are angled little bit, hehe.

19:59
May 2, 2012


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Thank you very much, Bruno. Your information is very interesting and useful.

Next time our members get their cars' wheels aligned, they can print and take your correct figures to the garage, to advise them.

Vel-Satis.org Chief Administrator & Founder

06:00
May 3, 2012


Bernard Brown

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I have been doing the four wheel alignment for awhile now to both cars, and it's been worth every penny. Not just in road holding etc, but in the cost of replacing the tyres. It's the first thing I do with any car I get now before even washing it. It makes all the difference to driving and makes it a pleasure.

06:26
May 3, 2012


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Good to know someone else fastidiously gets their VS's wheels aligned, Bernard.

What do you think re Bruno's notion that the values used in alignment computer systems may be incorrect?

Vel-Satis.org Chief Administrator & Founder

08:38
May 3, 2012


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Team said:

Good to know someone else fastidiously gets their VS's wheels aligned, Bernard.

What do you think re Bruno's notion that the values used in alignment computer systems may be incorrect?

To be honest all those figures are beyond me. I trust the seat of my pants. I know by the feel if something wrong and to date I've always been right. In fact one time I had only just had the wheels balanced at National Tyres in Aberdeen some while back, and it took me about half a mile to realise they weren't perfect. So I went to my normal local tyre shop the other side of town and now they are perfect. For all the gizmo's and readouts the best tools I still have are my hands, feet, bum, hearing and eye sight. Those never let you down or need recalibrating.

08:52
May 3, 2012


hu88ertvelsat

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I agree – your own body can sense if alignment is out.

A few years ago, my Vel was wobbling at certain speeds. The "Renault specialist" garage I took it to, took 5 weeks to work out the problem, which was just that it needed a good 4-wheel-laser-alignment session.

UK roads are a nightmare, as I'm sure my Vel could really do with alignment re-doing every 6 months, but it's not cheap.


 

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