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14:23
June 12, 2012


Battlecat

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As we all know when our beloved Vel Satis require new tyres the price of them can be a bit of a shock.

My Babette required a new OSF 245/45/18 100Y so I shopped around locally. As expected that size of tyre is not normally in stock. The dearest quote was £180 and the cheapest £120.

As I am not a boy racer and am not a fast driver Wink, I just needed something that was black and round. I asked the guy if he could get a budget tyre even if it was from Outer Mongolia. No, £120 was the cheapest.

I decided to have a look around t'internet and came across Tyre Giant, http://www.tyregiant.com

On their site I found a budget tyre called Jinju made by mastercraftsmen in China. I have used these tyres before on my old Rover 75 and was very happy with them.

It had the correct asymetrical design to match the other tyres on the car, it was black and round and it was cheap. £74.26 inc fitting at a garage near by.

For sheer devilment I chose the same garage that quoted me £120 and went this morning to have it fitted. No problem with fitting and it was balanced as well. No charge for disposal either. So very happy.

Tyre Giants site lets you choose between various makes and budgets. You pay online and can search for a garage that is close to you before you decide to buy. So well worth a try.

15:33
June 12, 2012


bmn

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I've been buying mine from mytyres.co.uk ,they have a very good range of budget tyres. The good thing about the site is that they have the tyretest.com ratings for the tyres. This gives you the added confidence of the tyres performance that you require. My last purchase was for a   245/45 ZR18 100W XL  Star Performer for £75 (It's now £82) this was  including delivery to my local tyrefitter who charged £15 per tyre.

Another good toy on the site which I've previously mentioned is the new wheel section which gives you a photo of a VS and lets you add various alloys. Great fun,give it a try.

Brian

11:55
January 30, 2013


VS-IT

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Battlecat said:

As we all know when our beloved Vel Satis require new tyres the price of them can be a bit of a shock.

My Babette required a new OSF 245/45/18 100Y so I shopped around locally. As expected that size of tyre is not normally in stock. The dearest quote was £180 and the cheapest £120.

As I am not a boy racer and am not a fast driver Wink, I just needed something that was black and round. I asked the guy if he could get a budget tyre even if it was from Outer Mongolia. No, £120 was the cheapest.

I decided to have a look around t'internet and came across Tyre Giant, http://www.tyregiant.com

On their site I found a budget tyre called Jinju made by mastercraftsmen in China. I have used these tyres before on my old Rover 75 and was very happy with them.

It had the correct asymetrical design to match the other tyres on the car, it was black and round and it was cheap. £74.26 inc fitting at a garage near by.

For sheer devilment I chose the same garage that quoted me £120 and went this morning to have it fitted. No problem with fitting and it was balanced as well. No charge for disposal either. So very happy.

Tyre Giants site lets you choose between various makes and budgets. You pay online and can search for a garage that is close to you before you decide to buy. So well worth a try.

It REALLY sickens me to see owners putting crap parts on these cars.  My motto: if you can't afford to run it properly, buy a pram!  Chinese stuff is UTTER RUBBISH.  Remind me to put your car on the BADLY MAINTAINED LIST.  Now here's a though:  A forum Topic of CARS TO AVOID BUYING

21:15
January 30, 2013


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Oh dear, here we go with the 'my tyre is best' argument. My two penneth on that subject is that it is not necessary to spend £250 per corner to keep your Vel on the road safely. I run Nexen tyres, which have never given me a moments worry in any weather/road conditions at all – and very occasionally I have been known to 'press on'. 

When I was deciding what new tyre to buy I read a lot of forum discussions, including Alfa and BMW sites, and everyone had their own idea about what was best – many enthusiastic owners had been delighted and surprised by the performance of relatively unknown makes/brands. There was also a great deal of contradictory twaddle as well. In the end, rather than go for a mid price Marangoni or similar, I just stuck with what was already fitted to the car when I first bought it, and located 2 new Nexens on ebay, which were fitted during a full service by my local Renault Main dealer. I wonder where that puts me on the Badly Maintained list??

To be honest, I expect that any tyre available for sale today – regardless of cost – is better than what was fitted to the 850 Mini I learned to drive on nearly 35 years ago, and I survived that experience. 

At the end of the day these cars are not worth very much at the moment (except to us owners), and you would need to think very hard before spending upwards of a grand on a set of new tyres. I have no doubt that the major manufacturers will say their tyre performance is better than a no-name brand, and in many cases it will be, but as there is a definite lack of specific tyre data for most cars, and none whatsoever for our particular model, it surely is a case of "You pays yer money and takes yer choice".

Here endeth the lesson……..

 

Regards, dpress

 

Oh, and by the way, if Chinese stuff really is rubbish, I wonder where they will make the next model of iphone……

10:50
January 31, 2013


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I'm with you dpress. I'm running my Vel Satis on the evergreen tyres in summer, and 2xSunny, 2xVerdenstein in winter.
I had Barum before the evergreen and I must state, that there is no different in handling, but there is a huge different in price.

Question to VelUnSatisfied is are you using a winter tyres in winter, or you prefer to save some pounds on it?

I prefer to have two sets, maybe not top branded, but believe me that Chinese 'Sunny' winter tyre will handle snow, and minus temperatures better than any Michelin summer/all condition tyre…

16:30
February 11, 2013


VS-IT

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dpress said:

Oh dear, here we go with the 'my tyre is best' argument. My two penneth on that subject is that it is not necessary to spend £250 per corner to keep your Vel on the road safely. I run Nexen tyres, which have never given me a moments worry in any weather/road conditions at all – and very occasionally I have been known to 'press on'. 

When I was deciding what new tyre to buy I read a lot of forum discussions, including Alfa and BMW sites, and everyone had their own idea about what was best – many enthusiastic owners had been delighted and surprised by the performance of relatively unknown makes/brands. There was also a great deal of contradictory twaddle as well. In the end, rather than go for a mid price Marangoni or similar, I just stuck with what was already fitted to the car when I first bought it, and located 2 new Nexens on ebay, which were fitted during a full service by my local Renault Main dealer. I wonder where that puts me on the Badly Maintained list??

To be honest, I expect that any tyre available for sale today – regardless of cost – is better than what was fitted to the 850 Mini I learned to drive on nearly 35 years ago, and I survived that experience. 

At the end of the day these cars are not worth very much at the moment (except to us owners), and you would need to think very hard before spending upwards of a grand on a set of new tyres. I have no doubt that the major manufacturers will say their tyre performance is better than a no-name brand, and in many cases it will be, but as there is a definite lack of specific tyre data for most cars, and none whatsoever for our particular model, it surely is a case of "You pays yer money and takes yer choice".

Here endeth the lesson……..

 

Regards, dpress

 

Oh, and by the way, if Chinese stuff really is rubbish, I wonder where they will make the next model of iphone……

Mmmmm! Well, Renault spent a great deal of money tuning tyres to cars and you say it's not important – Oh, to be ignorant must be fun for those that actually know!  The next best thing to the original tyre, which is most likely now unavailable, is a tyre of the brands that Renault use in a pattern not dissimilar to the original – then you've got it right.

Mmmmm!  Did Renault EVER put Chinese tyres on their cars – NO!  So, your argument is totally unfounded.  You have obviously not compared Chinese products to REAL brands that base their reputation on reliability, longevity, and adhering to international standards!

Unfortunately, the world has gotten to a state that makes your only choice Chinese made products, counterfeits and suchlike, so there will come a time no dooubt, when you will not be able to compare what it good, because the Chinese have changed that standard.  Why, because, the uninitiated continue to buy their sub-standard products, believing them to be fine.

iPhones are made in China, under the strict supervision of Apple in Cuppertino, to ensure that they are made to their standards – is that ideal, no, but it is a little better than the rest of companies that do not have westernised oversight.  Not much!  But, then it is obviously OK in your eyes that all British business has gone to China and the UK has little to offer in the manufacturing sector any more.  Along with that goes jobs, your standard of living, quality and good English pride.  So, from the ranks of the Dole queue, thanks go to those who support the Chinese!  Just one step at a time and we'll be speaking Chinese soon!!

A reciprocal argument here, but the mere fact YOU CANNOT AFFORD the tyres is because your pay packet has not increased with time, why?  Fewer jobs, more taxation, the list goes on.

After saying that, I have to say, after marrying a Chinese girl, that the one and only good thing that came from China, was her!Embarassed

22:36
February 11, 2013


dpress

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I wasn't going to dignify that pathetic rant with a reply, but there are a lot of allegations being made, including apparently that because I have bought a South Korean (not Chinese) tyre, I am supporting the decimation of British Industry. WALOB.

Michelin tyres are available for the VS, and indeed I ran my previous Renault on them for many years, and the Alfa 75 on them before that as well – back to the early nineties, so have plenty of experience with that brand of tyre. I found them excellent, but have found the Nexen's to be equally good, confirmed by many complimentary reports see link

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/T…../N6000.htm

I could have afforded to buy new Michelin tyres but chose not to. 

I suggest the reason that Renault fit Michelin tyres to their cars may be as much to do with the fact that both companies are French, as to the actual tyre performance, and I suspect that the Western Manufacturers currently building plants in China will eventually end up fitting Chinese made tyres for the same reason!

Now be a good chap and crawl back under your rock will you? And while you are there you may wish to actually read my original post, which does not say any of the things you have attributed to me. 

 

dpress

12:46
November 4, 2013


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I suppose that it is inevitable that, once a car becomes cheaper and therefore more accessible to those on a smaller budget, non-original items are fitted, to save money. However, I personally never do this and tend to agree that, if you can't afford to run the car properly, you probably shouldn't be running it at all. Cutting costs on something like tyres is potentially lethal, as anyone who has seen the results of serious testing will know. There can be a huge difference in performance between brands, especially in unfavourable conditions – and all for perhaps a saving of £50-£75 per tyre, which doesn't even cover the cost of a tank of fuel in the Vel Satis these days! The only exception might be a driver who covers minimal mileage, in dry conditions and at low speeds, which would immediately beg the question of why they are running a car like a Vel Satis in the first place!

ADAC is the motoring organisation in Germany and they conducts regular tests of both summer and winter tyres, which have revealed huge differences in braking and grip levels. Their most recent winter tyre review put Continental, Bridgestone and Michelin well ahead of the others. I'm currently running Continental tyres on my winter wheels and the car came with two Continental & two Michelin summer tyres, which is a good indicator that the previous owner was willing to spend the money where necessary. Cheap tyres on a secondhand performance or executive car should immediately raise concerns about other areas of 'money saving' maintenance.

15:39
November 4, 2013


dpress

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I have found the new EU markings on tyres very interesting, showing the differences in wet grip, fuel consumption and particularly noise. I am using a Fiat Punto for commuting at the moment fitted with Bridgestone Turanza ER300 tyres all round, and I have never used a tyre that has been noisier! It sounds like the wheels are about to fall off, so they will be changed for something a lot quieter next time. As for the VS, there do seem to be differences depending on the size of tyre used (17 or 18), and from my reading of the information available all the specifically 'Winter' tyres seem to offer less grip, worse mpg and more noise than their 'Summer' equivalent, although of course in snow etc no doubt they perform much better. 

As with all things, improvements seem to be made with every new tyre released, so it is worth checking out the latest reviews before deciding.

 

Living in the temperate Southwest I have never considered 'Winter' tyres, although it is a great deal colder in Berlin…..

 

dpress

17:02
November 4, 2013


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dpress said:

I have found the new EU markings on tyres very interesting, showing the differences in wet grip, fuel consumption and particularly noise.

Yes, that does make for interesting reading. Sorting tyres by those EU parameters, on a 245x45 R18 summer tyre, shows the Dunlop SportMax RT as best, with a C rating for economy, an A for wet grip and a 68dB noise level (yours for a mere £154.90 each, incidentally Laugh). Interestingly, no tyre currently has two A ratings (or even two B ratings) and low noise levels.

from my reading of the information available all the specifically 'Winter' tyres seem to offer less grip, worse mpg and more noise than their 'Summer' equivalent, although of course in snow etc no doubt they perform much better.

It's not just improved grip in snow, there's also a lot more grip in cold, wet and icy conditions over a summer tyre. They only offer less dry grip. As for noise, the tyre compound is actually softer than a summer tyre, so I've always found them to be quieter than the summer tyres. Just yesterday, I drove my Vel Satis on the winter tyres for the first time and immediately felt the ride smoother and quieter.

Living in the temperate Southwest I have never considered 'Winter' tyres, although it is a great deal colder in Berlin…..

That's true, of course but winter tyres are much more effective in any temperatures below +8C, let alone when it's also wet or icy so, even in the UK, they would still be beneficial for many.

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