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Replacement Intercooler

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13:51
May 20, 2011


Vel Haggis

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Hypertech texted me first thing this morning: the fuel pipe they had been sent was the wrong one! Turbo is on the car, but the correct fuel pipe will not be there until Monday… They can't put the old one back on as it was in such bad condition it cracked when they took it off!

Oh well, have to continue to thank the parents-in-law for the loan of their second car. I use the ZZR for commuting, so apart from getting soaked in the fine Scottish summer weather, it is all good!

09:14
May 25, 2011


Vel Haggis

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Got the car back on Monday night. Turbo refitted, elbow gasket replaced and fuel "spill pipe" from the top of the engine replaced. First thoughts: no whistling noise from the turbo! Engine seems to pick up well. Still got some oil burn from the exhaust (Duncan said there was so much oil in the downpipes etc that it would take a few days to burn out.

Frustratingly, amongst all the good thing, currently it seems even more prone to the "Fuel Injection Fault" showing up. Cold start, first hill you come to is a guarantee. Also though it happens on things like an uphill section of dual carriageway at 60mph in 6th. I'll give it a few days in case it needs to "clean itself out" a bit. If no improvement it'll be back to Hypertech to see if they can interrogate the OBDC and find out the cause.

£900 all in for fixing the turbo and the gasket, along with the fuel pipe. They were excellent all round for service and updates, the delays came from their suppliers.

08:40
June 28, 2011


Vel Haggis

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Car is back in today to try and get a handle on this Fuel Injection System fault. Still trying to get the remainder of the intercooler purchase refunded from the dealer.

15:47
June 28, 2011


Vel Haggis

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Injector faults in 1 and 2 and possible damage to boost sensor caused by oil ingress. Oil all over top of engine. Gotta love this car…

18:15
June 28, 2011


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Vel Haggis said:

Injector faults in 1 and 2 and possible damage to boost sensor caused by oil ingress. Oil all over top of engine. Gotta love this car…

Feel very sorry for your VH.Frown I had a similar problem with the dealer I bought a Ford Mondeo from. All nice as pie when I was buying it but when I had a problem they tried all sorts of ways to get out of it. (and suceeded)

I have yet to use my new Vel Satis. Waiting for the Log Book to come back from the DVLA so that I can tax it from July. So still using my trusty Rover 75. I do have it for sale but was wondering whether to put it on sorn just incase.

Hope I don't encounter any serious problems when I start to use it regularly. It has been well looked after so hopefully Babette will not be a naughty girl!

If your VS gives up fancy buying my Rover 75!!!!!Laugh

Best of luck

Colin.

19:22
June 28, 2011


Vel Haggis

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The dealer finally stumped up the remainder of the intercooler purchase tonight… bit of a sad hurrah, considering we will never see the £250 it cost to hire a car for the week due to him supplying the wrong part; nor the interior trim piece he said from day 1 he would replace, or fix the rear screen heater… At least we got the full amount back on the part.

 

The engineers are brilliant, totally unconnected to the dealer. I'l pass on the Rover thanks Battlecat. Used to drive the old 4 series as hire cars in the mob. Fine for the first 18,000 miles and then you tossed them in a skip and unwrapped a new one! Wink

08:50
June 30, 2011


Vel Haggis

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Got the car back from Duncan @Hypertech. He was brilliant and only charged for a diagnostic plus the injector cleaners even though they spent a lot more time on it.

His considered opinion: "Get rid of it, get rid of it now. You will only pour more money into this thing."

Faults show up on injectors 1 and 4, the engine is pushing oil through the rocker cover which then pools in the injector wells. A new rocker cover / inlet manifold and gaskets would be £300. Duncan doesn't have the tools to pull the injectors, so it would likely have to go into a Renault dealer to get butchered.

Sad really as I wanted to love the car. Looking at it objectively it is a money pit.

09:13
June 30, 2011


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Vel Haggis, it's such a shame to read all this, but you're certainly not alone.  I'd never buy another 2.2 dCi Renault again, it's an awful engine that seems to fail spectacularly at any point throughout ownership.  I know many Espace and Laguna owners with this engine who have said they'll never buy another Renault again because of the problems the engine gave them.

 

It's a pity you didn't have any other engine under the bonnet of that Vel Satis.  

 

Keep us updated!

09:39
June 30, 2011


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Rosic's Vel Satis 2.2 is living proof that some of them are good, so I'm so sorry to hear about your continuing Vel Satis 2.2 woes, the fact you've lost money in some areas, spent lots in others and ultimately been told by your guys at Hypertech to get rid. That's really sad to hear as we love all Vel Satises. But if it's draining you and there's no clear end in sight, Duncan may be right. Not knowing the exact figures, is there a chance you can cut your losses, sell this Vel Satis and get another, or get an engine from a breakers yard – or even if that may be possible financially, would you rule it out emotionally?

Vel-Satis.org Chief Administrator & Founder

20:49
June 30, 2011


Vel Haggis

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Nah, the last car I bought that had this much wrong with it was an old Volvo 340 1.4, that was a desperation buy, private sale from a copper. Engine seized 3 months later due to oil starvation! That one only cost me 700 quid all in as a total loss!

 

So far this one has cost over a grand on top of purchase, with no end in sight and it still has some of the niggly faults on purchase unresolved.

As a concept I think the VS is amazing. As a production car it is so poorly thought out in manufacture. So many things seem to have been done without any possible thought to part failure or maintenance.

Plus the whole affair has been soured by the attitude of the independant dealer we bought it from. Trying to get anything done involved multiple phone calls, he dodged responsibility, screwed our holiday up by ordering the wrong intercooler and trying to get the cash out of him was embarrassing. He almost got his own way as I was getting so frazzed by the constant fob offs and sob stories that I was finding it harder and harder to ring him.

We p/xed the VS today. Gone back to the cars that have made us happiest in the past, Volvo! I'll post some pics up after we get it delivered. Off on holiday next week so it gives the dealer time to prep it for us.

Don't know if there is a "Hall of Shame" list of dead VSes. If not, you can start it off with OCZ8887 If you see it at auction, I would say run a mile, but the chances are you could briskly walk 25 yards and it would break down before catching you up :P

I'll still lurk the forum, you can't get rid of me that easily!

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